Nonsense
Pink Truth, in their strong conviction that their small club are the only people in the world with intelligence and taste, have struck a death blow to Mary Kay by defiantly posting information that is supposed to be kept quiet for another quarter.
*gasp*
They are so on top of it.
Hint to consultants that are using Pink Truth's advice to plan your Mary Kay business.
First of all, don't.
But, failing that, at least save yourself some energy and realize that there will ALWAYS be something else coming (next quarter, next month, next year, etc.) so you might as well never order at all.
Mary Kay's point, as I understand it, is, "Don't order product to win a prize, don't wait to order product to win a prize; Order product when you need it, and only when you need it." If Pink Truth, your director, or your recruiter (or anyone for that matter) tells you different, don't listen.
Monday, February 9, 2009
Sunday, February 8, 2009
Why Pink Truth is so certain about their "truth" about Mary Kay?
Stumbled on this quote today and thought it was appropriate to the ongoing conversation here:
-Bertrand Russell-
British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-Bertrand Russell-
British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)
Friday, February 6, 2009
Thursday, February 5, 2009
Pink Truth: More Nonsense about Mary Kay
Nonsense
I thought that yesterdays post was an excellent example of why Pink Truth should neither be taken seriously, nor presumed to be attempting any sort of serious critique of Mary Kay. I still stand by that, but submit to you the comments on this letter from an outspoken critic.
As someone on this site (Balanced Mary Kay) recently pointed out, the first comment (and one that agreed with the first) claims that this letter writer has no credibility because she has not sold Mary Kay herself (no mention of the fact that she is a consumer and has interaction with consultants) while there are clearly "credible" members of the Pink Truth community that have never sold Mary Kay.
Hmmm. That's interesting.
Especially since she just criticized this type of thinking (or lack of thinking) with her somewhat witty, "if you don’t share my miserable experience, you are an idiot.com" comment! Clearly that is the prerequisite for being taken seriously on Pink Truth - Agree with the groupthink and you are intelligent; disagree and you are in need of tutoring.
For instance, "pinkpeace" adds:
I can't say that I ever recall "pinkpeace" having a problem with anyone else's English.
Is it just me?
And finally, for good measure, "pinksedition" wraps up my exact thoughts about Pink Truth.
Really, "pinksedition", does Pink Truth ever really try to do what you are asking for? Or is it also the same rhetoric over and over again that sounds more stupid every time I read it?
I thought that yesterdays post was an excellent example of why Pink Truth should neither be taken seriously, nor presumed to be attempting any sort of serious critique of Mary Kay. I still stand by that, but submit to you the comments on this letter from an outspoken critic.
As someone on this site (Balanced Mary Kay) recently pointed out, the first comment (and one that agreed with the first) claims that this letter writer has no credibility because she has not sold Mary Kay herself (no mention of the fact that she is a consumer and has interaction with consultants) while there are clearly "credible" members of the Pink Truth community that have never sold Mary Kay.
Hmmm. That's interesting.
Especially since she just criticized this type of thinking (or lack of thinking) with her somewhat witty, "if you don’t share my miserable experience, you are an idiot.com" comment! Clearly that is the prerequisite for being taken seriously on Pink Truth - Agree with the groupthink and you are intelligent; disagree and you are in need of tutoring.
For instance, "pinkpeace" adds:
pinkpeace said:
I do not sale MK, but I do use the products and have friends that sale.
Maybe she can ask one of her college-degreed consultant friends to provide some English tutoring along with that TimeWise cleanser.
Sigh. Now I have to go to confession for being mean.
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I can't say that I ever recall "pinkpeace" having a problem with anyone else's English.
Is it just me?
And finally, for good measure, "pinksedition" wraps up my exact thoughts about Pink Truth.
pinksedition said:
Really, does anyone ever really try to make some intellectual remarks arguing about this site? It is the same rhetoric over and over again and it sounds more stupid every time I read it.
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Really, "pinksedition", does Pink Truth ever really try to do what you are asking for? Or is it also the same rhetoric over and over again that sounds more stupid every time I read it?
Wednesday, February 4, 2009
Pink Truth: Nonsense about Mary Kay
This is a two part post.
Part 1
Part 2
(part two is addressed to Havurah, who is still refusing to comment on this site and is using "Google locked me out" as a weak excuse. Click Here to skip to that part)
Part 3
(part three is my response to "blessed", a.k.a. all I have to about this nonsense.)
Nonsense
I nearly did not link to this article. Speaking to, or for that matter, about, "blessed" is futile.
The very fact that Tracy not only allows his nonsense on her site but, in fact, publishes it on the front page demonstrates that she is not serious in her criticism of Mary Kay.
Are there flaws with Mary Kay's business model? No doubt. In fact, we discuss them on this site -- and I am sure that they are brought up at corporate headquarters on a daily basis.
Is comparing a cosmetics company (or its marketing plan) to a social disease, a cult or a plague helpful in any way? I say, no.
I have made very clear my belief that Tracy is, to say the least, misleading many about her intentions with Pink Truth. Her deception and, frankly, outright lies are what motivate me to keep this site in existence.
That she has a problem with Mary Kay does not bother me.
That she actively campaigns to smear honest and integrous women with no concern for the truth is despicable. This post from "blessed", who has allowed his outrage at what happened to him and his wife (he has not actually told us what happened, so we can only guess that it must have been pretty bad) to consume him with with an illogical and ignorant belief that anyone involved with Mary Kay must be either knowingly or unknowingly complicit in the scam-to-end-all-scams, and must be stopped at any cost.
I do, however, believe that they are aware, to some degree, that their position (extreme hatred against anything and anyone involved with Mary Kay) is not bulletproof. This is evidenced by the fact that neither of them will allow dissenting opinions. Tracy avoids it by only having conversation in places where she can control the outcome, and "blessed" by not ever responding to the questions that are asked of him.
This, to me, is sad.
Finally, "havurah", in the comments on this post (the one that I linked to by "blessed") responded to my request for her to be respectful enough to comment over here, by either feigning ignorance or being to lazy to actually read what was said here.
So I will clarify... and this time, I will try to make it simple.
Havurah:
No one here suggested that Tracy "locked you out" of anything.
There is nothing wrong with creating an account with the name(s) "havurah1" "havvie" or any other such pseudonym that will be easily recognized and starting your comment with, "this is "Havurah" from Pink Truth. We will all know who you are. Plus your now famous third person monologue(s) should be easy to spot.
What we did ask you, specifically, was why your comment that referenced this site by the name "The Truth About Mary Kay" was suddenly censored to read "*********"
Was that your doing?
Or were you censored because the owner of the site is threatened by this little slice of truth over here on the other side of the internet?
Either way, how does that stack up in your evaluation of Pink Truth?
Finally, I would like to emphasize, I am calling you out. I believe that you are hiding from having an open discussion with an audience that is not censored by Tracy. None of your excuses for not leaving a comment and having a conversation, to date, hold any water.
You seem to hold what I at first interpreted as a strong set of values: honor and respect, specifically. I hope that you will prove me right and show this site the respect of visiting and explaining how you can support a cause like Pink Truth when even you yourself have been either voluntarily or obligatorily censored. This is clearly a paradox for a site claiming to be offering THE truth, don't you think?
It is your move. I hope that you will respect me (and if not me, at least your own values) enough to come visit and explain this apparent contradiction.
Part 1
Part 2
(part two is addressed to Havurah, who is still refusing to comment on this site and is using "Google locked me out" as a weak excuse. Click Here to skip to that part)
Part 3
(part three is my response to "blessed", a.k.a. all I have to about this nonsense.)
Nonsense
I nearly did not link to this article. Speaking to, or for that matter, about, "blessed" is futile.
The very fact that Tracy not only allows his nonsense on her site but, in fact, publishes it on the front page demonstrates that she is not serious in her criticism of Mary Kay.
Are there flaws with Mary Kay's business model? No doubt. In fact, we discuss them on this site -- and I am sure that they are brought up at corporate headquarters on a daily basis.
Is comparing a cosmetics company (or its marketing plan) to a social disease, a cult or a plague helpful in any way? I say, no.
I have made very clear my belief that Tracy is, to say the least, misleading many about her intentions with Pink Truth. Her deception and, frankly, outright lies are what motivate me to keep this site in existence.
That she has a problem with Mary Kay does not bother me.
That she actively campaigns to smear honest and integrous women with no concern for the truth is despicable. This post from "blessed", who has allowed his outrage at what happened to him and his wife (he has not actually told us what happened, so we can only guess that it must have been pretty bad) to consume him with with an illogical and ignorant belief that anyone involved with Mary Kay must be either knowingly or unknowingly complicit in the scam-to-end-all-scams, and must be stopped at any cost.
I do, however, believe that they are aware, to some degree, that their position (extreme hatred against anything and anyone involved with Mary Kay) is not bulletproof. This is evidenced by the fact that neither of them will allow dissenting opinions. Tracy avoids it by only having conversation in places where she can control the outcome, and "blessed" by not ever responding to the questions that are asked of him.
This, to me, is sad.
Finally, "havurah", in the comments on this post (the one that I linked to by "blessed") responded to my request for her to be respectful enough to comment over here, by either feigning ignorance or being to lazy to actually read what was said here.
So I will clarify... and this time, I will try to make it simple.
Havurah:
No one here suggested that Tracy "locked you out" of anything.
There is nothing wrong with creating an account with the name(s) "havurah1" "havvie" or any other such pseudonym that will be easily recognized and starting your comment with, "this is "Havurah" from Pink Truth. We will all know who you are. Plus your now famous third person monologue(s) should be easy to spot.
What we did ask you, specifically, was why your comment that referenced this site by the name "The Truth About Mary Kay" was suddenly censored to read "*********"
Was that your doing?
Or were you censored because the owner of the site is threatened by this little slice of truth over here on the other side of the internet?
Either way, how does that stack up in your evaluation of Pink Truth?
Finally, I would like to emphasize, I am calling you out. I believe that you are hiding from having an open discussion with an audience that is not censored by Tracy. None of your excuses for not leaving a comment and having a conversation, to date, hold any water.
You seem to hold what I at first interpreted as a strong set of values: honor and respect, specifically. I hope that you will prove me right and show this site the respect of visiting and explaining how you can support a cause like Pink Truth when even you yourself have been either voluntarily or obligatorily censored. This is clearly a paradox for a site claiming to be offering THE truth, don't you think?
It is your move. I hope that you will respect me (and if not me, at least your own values) enough to come visit and explain this apparent contradiction.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009
Pink Truth: One Mary Kay Consultant confesses to "doing it fast"... this means all Mary Kay Consultants do it this way
Pink Truth "I-Story"
Everyone has a story. Seems to me... from where I am sitting... that some are good... and some are bad.
What do you think?
Everyone has a story. Seems to me... from where I am sitting... that some are good... and some are bad.
What do you think?
Monday, February 2, 2009
Pink Truth: Mary Kay consultant numbers are down, this IS significant
Pink Truth, in their ongoing attempt to prove that Mary Kay is no good, points to an apparent decrease in U.S. Consultant numbers as just the kind of evidence they are looking for
What do all of you say? 700K to 600K seems like a considerable number. Is this evidence of "downsizing" or something more dramatic?
In other, lighter notes, Steelers won the Superbowl and I should be back on a regular schedule with the posting. Thanks for your patience.
What do all of you say? 700K to 600K seems like a considerable number. Is this evidence of "downsizing" or something more dramatic?
In other, lighter notes, Steelers won the Superbowl and I should be back on a regular schedule with the posting. Thanks for your patience.
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